In this week's episode, Ryan Seklis (CEO of Messari) and Qiao Wang (Head of Product, Messari) share their experiences from the previous week at EthBerlin. In short: there was a massive disconnect between the enthusiasm they experienced at the hackathon and the ether price performance. Ryan talks about the considerations of design that goes into token engineering, and the externalities that developers have to plan for. Qiao reiterates on the two main topics of discussion from the hackathon: 1) scaling solutions and 2) open finance.